matusow isnt an idiot. And he doesnt care enough to either go out at that point out of the tournament or later on. He wanted to build his stack to play with it later and push people around, that's what you gotta do. I would make the same move, or at least reraise all in. But with his all-in move on the flop EVERY HAND folds except AA/KK/QQ and the boat or quads of course.
mike is awesome! ...( 1 year ago by marcsdbest87)
mike is awesome! its not a bad play. he wanted to gamble, and he thought he was with ace queen of diamonds, against pocket tens / jacks! he cnt put that donkey on pocket fours!
HOW COULD HE PUT ...( 1 year ago by gawfstix)
HOW COULD HE PUT HIM ON 44?
Friggin bad move - ...( 1 year ago by Pastevin242)
Friggin bad move - it was a 960 pot. Many amateurs could do better. The best excuse he could have had was if they went all in after the turn A.
It was the correct ...( 10 months ago by surGeonGG)
It was the correct move because it is correct for the villain to fold anything but a boat, quads or trips.
geez stop groning ...( 10 months ago by OMFGTHISNAMEISTAKEN1)
geez stop groning about his play.. its not the best but its not as horrible as your making it sound. Mike can shove AA,KK their for value, He's not in that bad a shape with a hand like AQ with a flush draw. Everytime that guy is going to HAVE his bs small pocket pair unless he flops a set or quads. 88,99,10,10 CANNOT call that massive overbet. mike wants to double up now to try and win it not to cash.
I don't mind this ...( 10 months ago by monkybizzness)
I don't mind this move for tournament play. You need to gather chips any which way you can, including putting in a big all-in bluff. It is usually best to put the other player to the test. If eastside slim had AK, AQ, AJs, he would have folded and he might have folded a hand like 6s, 8s, or 9s. That would have given Mike a nice chunk of chips to sling around later and pick up more little to medium pots or possibly double up for a larger amount, etc.
If he bet pot and ...( 10 months ago by monkybizzness)
If he bet pot and got raised on the flop, he would have had to put it all in anyway. So, he decided to just take control of the hand and put his opponent to the test.
Mike just doesnt ...( 10 months ago by BPMa14n)
Mike just doesnt give a **** about this tourney , he probably put him on a mid pair up to jacks and decided to gamble and maximize his chances to get a huge payout. He didnt want to grind the whole tourney just to make a little money.
He should have just ...( 9 months ago by MachineManX51)
He should have just made a pot sized bet.
He had to only ...( 9 months ago by AndyKawai)
He had to only worry about kings, aces, queens, 7s, and 4s. The queens, sevens, and fours are much less likely because 2 fours are out, 1 seven is out, and he has a queen and an ace. The oversized bet probably made Mike discount Kings and Aces, and he anticipated a call from 10s-Js, a slight possibility of a call from 9s or 8s, and a fold from 6s on down (and any unpaired 2 cards that missed). Against 8s-Js, Mike would have had 15 outs and been a favorite.
AND he got his ...( 6 months ago by zwamman)
AND he got his chips in first. But still, i don't like this play in a tournament. Even if you're a favorite, your still drawing. It's comparable to a tournament where, most of the times, you COULD push it with AK preflop, but you don't do that, even if you know you're probably a 45 percent underdog at worst. Pushing on big draws in a tournament is a very questionable play, especially out of position.
Or, maybe he's ...( 6 months ago by jeffw1267)
Or, maybe he's multitabling tourneys, like I do. When you're playing ten tourneys at a time, it's all in or fold most of the time. Maybe it's not quite optimal in all cases, but it puts a lot of pressure on your opponents. Of course it looks bad when the guy turned over quads, but most of the time he's not going to have the nuts or anything near it. And he's going to have outs when called about 98% of the time in this situation.
That's correct, but ...( 6 months ago by jeffw1267)
That's correct, but Mike is the kind of player who wants to take chances, to build a massive stack that he can bully people with. It actually is pretty efficient. Either he wins the hand and adds a lot to his stack, or he busts out and can buy into another tourney immediately. So the pot odds don't tell the whole story here. Also, a 49% win rate is +EV considering the money that's already in the pot.
His play was obv he ...( 6 months ago by sherby888)
His play was obv he had flush draw with 2 overs,I see players do that move all the time online.I think best play was to either bet 3 quarter pot to see where hes at or to check raise flop,movin all in on flop gave his hand away.(even if the player wasnt folding anyway with quads)But basically the BIGGEST mistake of all that got him into this bad situation was playing SHITTY AQ out of position to a massive raise with so much play left.shud either be re raise or fold preflop,hands such as AA KK QQ
ahahaha pwned( 5 months ago by MeisterJedah)
ahahaha pwned
this was too funny( 4 months ago by pumapaulwaul)
this was too funny
That was a good ...( 4 months ago by 123vuk123)
That was a good call. A bit of risky but mike can afford it certainly. That guy obviously had a pair so mike had 2 overcards and a flush draw!!! Finally that was an ace on the turn!!! He could lose only to pocket sevens or fours!
thats not bad..... ...( 4 months ago by iambt21)
thats not bad.....whast the deal with the slow play.
i dont get what the ...( 3 months ago by tartanarmy1989)
i dont get what the big deal is here. its standard play. watch the hand with greg raymer and mike at the wsop 2004 where greg goes all in with a flush draw and two over cards and it pays off and leads to greg winning the tournement.
it was the right ...( 3 months ago by iveyfan101)
it was the right move !!!!!!!! he had a flush draw to crummy cards who would think that the guy had 4 4 ? seriously it was the right move matusow had 4 diamonds plus 2 overs
That is an ...( 3 months ago by 12spanku)
That is an absolutely correct shove period. He's only dead against 77 and 44, which is pretty rare, and in decent 3/2 shape against KK and QQ. The rest of the hands he is a favourite over.
Mikes play there ...( 1 week ago by metalrules16)
Mikes play there could only be described in one word (DONKEY)!!!!!!!! It was horrible so what he had a flush draw and 2 overs check call a small bet there was no reason for him to shove thats just horrible donkish play. It was still early in the tournament no reason to gamble with your tournament life.
I would make the same move, or at least reraise all in. But with his all-in move on the flop EVERY HAND folds except AA/KK/QQ and the boat or quads of course.
Many amateurs could do better.
The best excuse he could have had was if they went all in after the turn A.
its not the best but its not as horrible as your making it sound. Mike can shove AA,KK their for value, He's not in that bad a shape with a hand like AQ with a flush draw. Everytime that guy is going to HAVE his bs small pocket pair unless he flops a set or quads. 88,99,10,10 CANNOT call that massive overbet.
mike wants to double up now to try and win it not to cash.
he had a flush draw to crummy cards who would think that the guy had 4 4 ? seriously it was the right move matusow had 4 diamonds plus 2 overs