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Expert Insight Poker Tip: The Value of Suited Cards


Video Description:  Professional poker player Phil Gordon teaches you the true value of suited cards in no-limit Texas Holdem.
You can buy Phil's Final Table Poker DVD, read Phil's poker articles, listen to his WSOP podcasts and even ask him a poker question at http://www.ExpertInsight.com
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you cant get suited ... ( 10 months ago by Psychosoldier187)
you cant get suited ACes douche.
wow, are you really ... ( 10 months ago by scuzks)
wow, are you really that dumb? you can't get suited aces? ace of hearts/2 of hearts = a suited ace. to talk about these hands in the plural form is to say "suited aces".
wait there are 4 ... ( 10 months ago by Psychosoldier187)
wait there are 4 aces aint there? each one is a different suit isnt that what ya ment?
he doesnt even beat ... ( 10 months ago by pokerace87)
he doesnt even beat his grandma playing cards
no. i mean an ace ... ( 10 months ago by scuzks)
no. i mean an ace with any other card of the same suit.
The chance of ... ( 9 months ago by scribble127)
The chance of making a flush may be low, but there is a huge playing difference between 87 off suit and 87 suited. Think of all the times you will flop middle or bottom pair and face a bet. It can be very difficult to call with 87 off suit, because you are really only drawing to 5 cards. However, with suited cards, you will often have a backdoor flush draw which will keep you until the river if a 4-flush hits the turn. Backdoor draws are likelier to get paid off too, adding yet more value.
The chance of ... ( 9 months ago by scribble127)
The chance of making a flush may be low, but there is a huge playing difference between 87 off suit and 87 suited. Think of all the times you will flop middle or bottom pair and face a bet. It can be very difficult to call with 87 off suit, because you are really only drawing to 5 cards. However, with suited cards, you will often have a backdoor flush draw which will keep you until the river if a 4-flush hits the turn. Backdoor draws are likelier to get paid off too, adding yet more value.
He's talking ... ( 9 months ago by nickelelei)
He's talking pre-flop. The value of suitedness increases with the stack size (and if your opponent is aggresive or a calling machine), in deep-stack it can make a difference in your decision pre-flop. But remember Phil is a tounament player not cash-game player. Very rarely there are deep stacks in tournaments with the big blinds going up constantly.
Like the guy above ... ( 8 months ago by efh0888)
Like the guy above said, he plays more tourneys - implied odds is usually more of a cash game thing since your stacks are so deep. In tourneys you won't normally have more than 20-25 the BB so it can be very costly to call raises w/ suited connectors and suited aces even if you do have position. If you're on the button or cutoff though, suited connectors have way more value than suited aces b/c the aces likely dominated.
No offense but ... ( 8 months ago by efh0888)
No offense but trying to justify playing suited cards w/ the possibility of making backdoor flushes is kinda retarded.
I hate to educate ... ( 8 months ago by melonheadyt)
I hate to educate the customers, but I can't stand it any longer.
Some of you guys can't see the forest for the trees, and it looks like most of you are limiting yourselves to thinking about playing one session. Instead, do this:
1) Pick a period of time, say 3, 6 or 12 months, depending on how often you play.
2) Keep track of how much you spend on flush drawing hands.
3) At the end of the time period you've chosen, add up how much you've won, how much you've lost, and compare the two.
Unless you've had ... ( 8 months ago by melonheadyt)
Unless you've had some unusual variance in your play, it will be an eye opener, and I think you'll agree with the 3%-4% figure.
just a technicality ... ( 7 months ago by UncoolNegated)
just a technicality, in the first example, the kings do not contain one of the out cards for the opponent's flush, in the second example the king does hold one of the out cards for the opponent's flush; this does skew things a little bit (~1%) and it makes the parallels faulty......the point can be made without being a bit tricky, so just make it
Gordon's point is ... ( 6 months ago by Davzanetti)
Gordon's point is valid but way overstated: in the first example he says that the difference between the 19% win unsuited and the 23% win suited is 4%: that's wrong, it's a 4/19 or about a 20% increase in value.
You really are ... ( 6 months ago by PokerPlum)
You really are wrong. And I mean, major wrong.
Alot of shit ... ( 6 months ago by hawkfish88)
Alot of shit players see there suited hand, 2 7 for example, and figure they can get a flush and win a pot but forget that the odds of getting a flush are very small. so get that into ur thick skulls you fucking idiots!!!!!!!!!!
Youre an idiot, go ... ( 5 months ago by abce246)
Youre an idiot, go run the odds in an odds calculator you stupid idiot. Oh yea its Phil
Gordon, I have a feeling he knows a lot more than you when it comes to poker. Lol a 20% increase? My god where did you get those ridiculous numbers. I really wish I could call you an idiot to your face.
I thought I had ... ( 5 months ago by Davzanetti)
I thought I had posted a reply but I can't see any, so here goes again: PG says that an increase from 19% to 23% is a 4% difference in value. No it's not, it's about a 20% increase, because 4/19 is about 20%. Looked at another way, about 17% (4/23) of the value of 78s is in the flushes. I agree with uncoolnegated (below) in that I agree with PG's point, but he should make it without being tricky.
Not to mention the ... ( 5 months ago by freewill1978)
Not to mention the times they make their flush and get beat by a better flush.
lol at whoever said ... ( 4 months ago by sasuke1356)
lol at whoever said 20% inrease. suited increases basically 3 or 4 percent
basically suited ... ( 4 months ago by sasuke1356)
basically suited cards are barely better tan their unsuited counterparts.
this is wrong but ... ( 3 months ago by frankiedetorie)
this is wrong but suited cards have higher implied odds so any suited aces is suprisingly proftable
Suited cards are ... ( 3 months ago by zorloth)
Suited cards are way better, chances of a flush come on 3 more cards in the flop ding dong flush bet very high :D
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