Final Table Poker with Phil Gordon on Calculating Odds

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Final Table Poker with Phil Gordon on Calculating Odds

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This is a clip from Phil's new DVD that offers an easy to understand method for counting outs and calculating odds. This DVD runs for 100 min and has 2 viewing modes for beginner and advanced. It also comes with a FREE Starting Hand Guide and an Odds & Outs Chart. Get the DVD and get inside Phil's mind at http://www.expertinsight.com !

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the other players ... ( 6 months ago by slahblah)

the other players cards are irrelevant.
Because their cards could just as easily include your outs as they could other cards.
You are wrong, not him.

Right. It is ... ( 6 months ago by jagriffith1)

Right. It is probable that you have never taken a course in applied probability and stochastic processes.
The other player's cards are irrelevant. What!!!

you're probably ... ( 6 months ago by KrisGravity)

you're probably right jagriffith while the acclaimed proffessional poker player, writer of several well received books on poker theory is probably wrong ... count those odds why don't you
btw if ur playing online plz do give me the site and your nick
tata

Heh, and what did ... ( 5 months ago by j00f)

Heh, and what did you get on those courses? An F?
The odds that those 16 cards of your opponents include/don't include your outs are the same as on any random 16 cards left in the deck. Making them irrelevant in this calculation.
Also, you calculated odds for 1 card to hit your outs. In poker, there are 2 cards left to be dealt after the flop, so your odds are of course higher.

I don't get the 1/3 ... ( 5 months ago by fedormmagod)

I don't get the 1/3 33% chance to win to call.....HELP PLEASE!!!!

I love reading ... ( 5 months ago by jagriffith1)

I love reading responses from goofs like you.
(Google Taylor Series - have someone explain it to you slowly and repeatedly)
Each turn of the cards is one card and hence one outcome. The odds for each card can be calculated separately and summed to produce the same overall answer - that is, if you can calculate the sum correctly.
Even mindless blabbering automatons should one-day realize that a rule of 4 or rule of 2 is, at best, only an approximation.
Keep yapping!

If you mean that ... ( 5 months ago by j00f)

If you mean that calculation by jagriffith1, don't bother. It goes wrong on more than one occasion and he seems to be too full of himself to go trough it again with thought.

for fedormnagod: if ... ( 5 months ago by porkinwitz)

for fedormnagod: if you are talking about phils "making winnig decisions" he was saying that the pot was 100, someone before him bet another 100 (size of the pot) making it 200, so a call from him of a 100 would make it 300, so 100 for 300 is 1/3 or 33%. i hope that helps some.

also i might add ... ( 5 months ago by porkinwitz)

also i might add that the 33% is greater than his 20% to win so thats why he says to fold

Unless all these ... ( 5 months ago by Braincrafter)

Unless all these people who have won millions playing poker, and who write all these poker books are wrong, it works like this:
The other players cards are irrelevant(unless you have seen them.)
After the flop there are 5 known cards.This leaves the possibility of any of 47 different unseen cards that could come on the turn. No one card more or less likely than then next. (Unless it's the card you need, then you have zero chance.)

tnx braincrafter, ... ( 5 months ago by KrisGravity)

tnx braincrafter, but i knew. normally i'm not apt to educating the fish ... but i couldn't resist some mild sarcasm for this jagriffith or what's his name. and remember: don't be to pissed when the blind squirrel finds the occasional nutt!

lmfao lmao lol thas ... ( 5 months ago by 43Dalwick)

lmfao lmao lol thas sum funny shit i laff'd til i cudnt laff no mo hahahaha

ROFL ( 5 months ago by WannaGraphic)

ROFL

Good advise Phil, I ... ( 5 months ago by truefan4u)

Good advise Phil, I read it in your book, but I needed this video to really help it sink in

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thx this video has ... ( 2 months ago by frogster24)

thx this video has been a lot of help

Exactly... I ... ( 2 months ago by slahblah)

Exactly... I cant even believe that jagriffith guy is so dumb! He might be joking around, but if not I feel bad for him being so stupid.
I mean its like saying you're more likely to get AA heads up because with more player they might have the other aces

ur an absolute ... ( 1 month ago by hawkfish88)

ur an absolute fucking idiot, just dont play poker. Unless its with me for alot of money because ill wipe the floor with you and your crazy percentages

i think what a lot ... ( 1 month ago by weizenugb)

i think what a lot of you are missing here is the fact that most people who are going to buy this dvd are not as intelligent as most of you. what phil is trying to do here is give the "average joe" a little taste of poker theory. im sure he understands that these odds arent entirely accurate, and that playing at an actual table with experienced players is much more difficult than using the "rule of 4 and 2." phil gordon made a poker dvd to make a little extra cash. its all about marketing folks.

how does he get 15 ... ( 1 month ago by gforceram)

how does he get 15 outs when the 8c appears on the turn. I dont see why 3 more was added to 12 outs.

at that point his ... ( 4 weeks ago by efh0888)

at that point his gut shot draw of 3-5-6-7 turned into an open ended draw of 5-6-7-8 leaving him w/ any spade (9 outs), any 4 (3 outs, excluding the spade), or any 9 (3 more) totaling 15 outs.

Oh ok that helped ... ( 4 weeks ago by gforceram)

Oh ok that helped out alot thank you so much.

IMPORTANT: Does ... ( 4 weeks ago by ilPalomba)

IMPORTANT: Does this system work ONLY when you need ONLY 1 card to your winning hand?

pot odds like this ... ( 2 weeks ago by mebaran)

pot odds like this are used every hand, but they matter a lot more in close decisions

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